'Look, have three pounds.' Then there was a sudden change, and I looked at [this beggar] in the terrible light of Deansgate in Manchester and I saw rushing through his face, as we was jolted back to sitting on the sofa with the smell of fish fingers and chips when he was secure and washed. And then you jump on twenty years and he's begging in Deansgate, and who comes along to offer him three pounds, but The Doctor.
Three pounds is not much after the things I did at the BBC - saving the whole bloody universe every week. But he said, 'No. I don't want the money.' Incredible. Then came the request. 'Can't you get us out of here?'
The rest of the
interview with Tom Baker is fabulous and educational (I didn't know he was a monk at one point), and he's funny as hell.